Never a JW here. I'LL bet my bottom dollar when those dye hard JW's are old and need to be cared for guess who will be taking care of them? Not that son, more then likely it will be that daughter they shunned all along.
rebelfighter
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To highlight how unfair shunning is
by joe134cd ini'm going to relate a jw family that i know of that highlight how disproportionate disfellowshipping is.
both dad (elder) and mum are die hard jw.
the son was always a nasty boy and when he got into drugs it just intensified his personality 10 fold.
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The Opal Ring: a story based on the true life of Jehovah's Witnesses
by Julia Orwell init's finally finished!
it's a fictional story about an old jw.
it is very long, about 7000 words.. the opal ring.
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LoisLane,
Thank you for bringing this story forward I totally enjoyed it. The writer is great and for a non- JW it is very interesting how especially there own children will abandoned their elderly.
Interesting they can accuse a man of apostasy for talking about 1975 when he lived through it, "what have you been reading"? Check my age you dim wits!
I also find it very interesting the JWS pick and choose which Bible verses they will use. Although I no longer believe in the Bible I so remember many mentions of honoring your father and mother. I for one had a very hateful and violent mother BUT when she was in trouble I did not turn my back on her. I have spent the last 3 days trying to find another nursing home that will take this 89 year old wicked lady because she will not stop beating up staff and running away. 15 incident reports in 1 yr 6 months. That is about right, she would call the County Sheriff every time she beat me up and that is about the same average.
My advice to anyone DO NOT drink alcohol it will FRY your brain!!
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How do you deal with depression?
by BlackWolf ini'm currently going through a bout of depression and my eating disorder has gotten worse.
ever since my parents actually told me that they are going to kick me out when i turn 18 i've felt kind of hopeless about my life.
my parents won't take me to the doctor because the psychiatrists won't have my "best interests" aka jw crap in mind, because really that's the root of all my problems.. i'm wondering if any of you guys have any advice with dealing with depression?
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Your state has a Child mental health care system and it is free up till you are 18. Also please go online and research your state laws for emancipation you may qualify for a couple of reasons primary because of the fact that your parents are withholding medical care. The age is 16. Please PM me as to what part of our state you live in.
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How do you deal with depression?
by BlackWolf ini'm currently going through a bout of depression and my eating disorder has gotten worse.
ever since my parents actually told me that they are going to kick me out when i turn 18 i've felt kind of hopeless about my life.
my parents won't take me to the doctor because the psychiatrists won't have my "best interests" aka jw crap in mind, because really that's the root of all my problems.. i'm wondering if any of you guys have any advice with dealing with depression?
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With your homeschooling and I remember you said you had a part time job. Is it possible to increase your hours at work? If not would it be possible to have a second part time job? The part time jobs would be a source of new friends and get you out of the house more, giving you added activities and less time for you to think about your situation.
The advise above is great make detail plans for next year just remember to stay out of trouble and stay away from alcohol and drugs.
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Introduction - Any Believers?
by Believer ini’ve been reading it for a few of years off and on, but have been a little too ... maybe ... timid to join.
i left the watchtower organization almost 20 years ago but never abandoned my faith and belief in god.
i knew the gb/organization didn’t represent god, so when i lost my faith in them, i managed to keep my faith in an all wise benevolent creator.
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Great post MarkofCane
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Video: Dear Believer, Why Do You Believe?
by Believer ini was asked to view the video “dear believer, why do you believe?” i said i would and i would publish my comments about it.
so here are my comments.
after my post, i hope other believers will post theirs comments about it.
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Thank you, thank you, thank you Greybeard!!!
Hugs, Hugs, Hugs
You are now my most favorite poster on this forum! Hugs!!
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Introduction - Any Believers?
by Believer ini’ve been reading it for a few of years off and on, but have been a little too ... maybe ... timid to join.
i left the watchtower organization almost 20 years ago but never abandoned my faith and belief in god.
i knew the gb/organization didn’t represent god, so when i lost my faith in them, i managed to keep my faith in an all wise benevolent creator.
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David_Jay,
I am so sorry for the pain you have suffered and still suffer from. I totally agree with your post. As I tried to get across in my previous post I feel there are several on this forum who do NOT care in the least the emotional damage they inflict upon people.
PS I may also take my leave and go to JWSURVEY for news updates because this site has become far to hostile.
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Introduction - Any Believers?
by Believer ini’ve been reading it for a few of years off and on, but have been a little too ... maybe ... timid to join.
i left the watchtower organization almost 20 years ago but never abandoned my faith and belief in god.
i knew the gb/organization didn’t represent god, so when i lost my faith in them, i managed to keep my faith in an all wise benevolent creator.
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Never a JW but I do understand that those leaving the Religion are seriously hurting and come here for support.
What I do not understand are the hard core attitudes on this site. I had always suppressed my life events in compartments from everyone even from my 2 best gf and my 2 kids BUT it all came to a head when I got overwhelmed dealing with my mom's ALZ. The past came out. I think my 2 gf put it best "how the hell could you possibly turn out so sweet, kind, caring, loving and such a huge heart with a past of such abuse." Their other question was how can you turn and take care of 2 people who abused you so badly? My son was 30 years old he said to me, "Look mom, I am 30 isn't about time and don't you think I am old enough to know why we were never allowed to talk about guns in our house?" Yes, my parents were totally drunk, my dad was a perfect marksman, I was 7 years old thank the good Lord the gun jammed. I watched the whole thing go down, mom, my sister and I moved out the next day.
My question to all you attack pit bulls on this site is WHAT difference does it make if someone believes in a loving caring God, the tooth fairy, Santa Claus, a Unicorn maybe it is totally misguided BUT what is IMPORTANT is the person getting out of bed and moving on with life are they functioning, are they attempting to start a new life?
When I first posted to this forum someone asked from an outsider viewpoint....
Well here goes
The attack dogs need to show a tad bit more compassion. YES my professional career is very black and white, when you deal with IRS it is right or wrong there is very little gray but when it comes down to dealing with children in trouble I do not bring that attitude. YOU are dealing with people who are healing, hurting, longing for direction what they do not need is to be constantly lectured at and put down isn't that where they just came from.
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Nobody at work knows what JWs believe
by Athanasius inrecently susie, one of my co-workers mentioned that her husband's family were all jws.
the family converted after susie's husband left home, so he never joined the jws, nor does he intend to.
anyway another co-worker asked her: "what do the jws believe?".
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Never a JW and after dating the "Elder" for 5 years up until I found this site and JWFACTS here is exactly what I knew:
NO holidays
NO blood
NO cross (so out of respect for his beliefs when we got together I would take off my cross)
AND they either can not read or obnoxiously refused to read the huge sign next to my doorbell that says "ABSOLUTELY NO SOLICITING "
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Introduction - Any Believers?
by Believer ini’ve been reading it for a few of years off and on, but have been a little too ... maybe ... timid to join.
i left the watchtower organization almost 20 years ago but never abandoned my faith and belief in god.
i knew the gb/organization didn’t represent god, so when i lost my faith in them, i managed to keep my faith in an all wise benevolent creator.
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Bonsai and Cofty,
The year I had cancer my friends nicknamed me the Butterfly because it was the year I woke up. No I was not a JW but I was on my own conclusion course with life itself. I was diagnosed on 6/1/2000. One of the worse and now probably one of the best days of my life. That day I stopped and told my mother, "well no one in our family has ever had cancer so you can't have it". Got very little support or help from her over the next 4 months. Next went home told my abusive husband "I have cancer" "thanks for telling me " was his response and he turned and walked away. Over the next 4 months my girlfriends, my 15 and 8 year old kids fought this battle. My church I was member of since 12 over 35 years never showed up, the pastor knew my husband was being abusive. The day I came home from the hospital after cancer surgery, sorry his words not mine my daughter ask "daddy wiLL you fix me lunch "tell your mother to get off her fat ass and fix it".
Anyway, that was the day he put the perverbial last nail in his coffin. See this man had just returned to work because I MADE him return to work after sitting on his butt for 7 years while I paid the mortgage, private school tuition bills, nanny for the kids and yes a maid for the house (4,000 Sq ft) all he did was watch TV and play games. I "MADE" him return to work because I bought him a brand new car and before it had 20,000 miles on it I had to put a new engine it, why because the jack a $$ never put any oil in the car. Why not? I do not intend on taking care of anything you buy. Good get the hell out of here till you get a job.
Well on 9/1/2000, I knew my final cancer treatment would be 10/1/2000, I sat his sorry butt down while the kids were at school and told him he had 30 days to finda place to live because on 10/1 he would no longer be welcomed here.
I got a separation agreement from him he signed over all the equity in the house to me. Haha he never contributed any money toward it. Over the next year I got all my ducks in a row, sold the monster house with the killer mortgage, fired half my clients and bought a house on a lake, put my kids in public schools for the first time in their lives. No more $30,000 per kid for 9 months and then summer camp fees. I was on a vicious cycle of producing large sums of money to support a life style that was crashing in all around us and it took a diagnosis of cancer to tell me you cannot continue at this pace forever.
Yes in one year I WOKE UP! It was no longer about the money, it was all about 1) my kids, 2) my health 3) being happy and enjoying life.
I have been cancer free for 16 years this month.
I do not care what any of you say but my loving and caring GOD has walked this path with me. I have put up with and been there through thick and thin for a wicked abusive Alz alcoholic mother, I even rescued that sorry butt estranged husband when he suffered a massive stroke 6 years after I kicked him out because he has no one because I have a heart.
Life is not easy but you can make the best of each struggle and keep fighting each one as they come along just hope there is only one at a time it gets a little tough when they start compounding on top of one another. Just be patient and don't knock somebody upside the head when they are being a real jerk and you are trying to get a job done. OH, trust me there has been days I wished for the 2 by 4.
Maybe you think that book was inspired by God or the words of God whatever, I do not!!
My God is a loving and caring God and he may not have all the answers when I need them but he walks with me through this journey and gives me support. I am not good at adding links so just look up the poem Footprints in the Sand. It hangs on my bedroom wall I read it before I leave in the morning and when I return in the evening. It gives me strength. It is also in a song version absolutely beautiful.